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Torches Together's avatar

My sense is that work hours are not an independent knob that you can adjust simply to optimise efficiency.

A 4-day week and a 996 might be employing two different strategies. A 4-day-week might look like planning logistics carefully to make sure your employees are productive at all times, and that teams who work together can align their off-days to allow work to flow etc. At 996, your strategy probably looks more like is "just get employees to live at work", so you don't have to spend a second thinking about who's available today.

It's like, if you hire a "live-in au pair", this can be basically a 996 job for them, but the logistics might actually be a lot easier (for both parties) than getting the au-pair to do a 9-5 or to come in at various times during the week.

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Lucie Philippon's avatar

I've had some weeks over the last two years when I worked 996 to produce events, and it's been working pretty well. With the right supportive environment, an upcoming deadline, and a clear set of tasks to do before the event, 996 just feels easy and appropriate. And there was just so much stuff to do, I could not have done it in 965.

Of course, that always required putting a large part of the things I care about on hold, which is why it's always been for at most a month. There's a big difference between having this as your life forever, and knowing it's a temporary intense period which will be followed by appropriate recovery. I think it's reasonable that startup founders could decide to be in this intense production mode for four years, and get back to the rest of their life once the company is sold. They also have a target when they know it will stop.

What seems crazy is offering this to random employees as a baseline, instead of as a specific temporary mode to achieve a specific high reward they care about, after which they can get back to normal hours.

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